道之诅咒 (the Curse of the Dow)

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道之诅咒 (the Curse of the Dow)

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这星期 Nvidia 将替代 Intel 成为道琼斯指数成份股。乍一看,这将利好 Nvidia。但老子说过:“祸兮福所倚,福兮祸所伏。”

经济学教授 Gary Smith 和他的学生系统分析了道琼斯成份股 1928 年至2006年的数据。他们发现,替代发生之后,那些被踢出道琼斯的股票比替代股的年平均回报率要高出4个百分点!这就是所谓的 “道之诅咒。” 一个典型的例子就是2018年 Walgreens 取代 GE 成为道琼斯的成份股。Smith 教授写他的文章时 (链接见下面) GE 刚被踢出道琼斯,从那至今 Walgreens 跌了将近90% 而 GE 涨了约230%! 这完美验证了 Smith 教授的“道之诅咒。”

根据 “道之诅咒”的历史规律,持有的 Nvidia 是不是应该换成 Intel ?再加上美国政府大力扶持本国企业、强调本土制造, Intel 很可能会凤凰涅槃、再现辉煌。

Gary Smith 教授的原文节选及链接:
A study I did with two of my students a few years ago looked at every change in the Dow DJIA back to October 1, 1928, when the Dow expanded to 30 stocks. We compared the performance of an Addition portfolio, consisting of stocks added to the Dow over the years, with the performance of a Deletion portfolio, consisting of the stocks that were replaced. The Deletion portfolio beat the Addition portfolio by about four percentage points a year — a huge difference compounded over decades.
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If so, stock prices will often be unreasonably low for stocks going out of the Dow and undeservedly high for the stocks replacing them. When a company that is struggling regresses to the mean, its stock price will rise. When a company that is doing spectacularly regresses to the mean, its price will fall. This is why stocks booted out of the Dow so often outperform the stocks that replace them — the Curse of the Dow.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-w ... 2018-06-20

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Re: 道之诅咒 (the Curse of the Dow)

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shepherd17 写了: 06 11月 2024, 21:43

这星期 Nvidia 将替代 Intel 成为道琼斯指数成份股。乍一看,这将利好 Nvidia。但老子说过:“祸兮福所倚,福兮祸所伏。”

经济学教授 Gary Smith 和他的学生系统分析了道琼斯成份股 1928 年至2018年的数据。他们发现,那些被踢出道琼斯的股票比替代股的回报率要高出 4%!这就是所谓的 “道之诅咒。” 一个典型的例子就是2018年 Walgreens 取代 GE 成为 Dow 的成份股,Smith 教授写他的文章时 GE 刚被踢出Dow。从那至今 Walgreens 跌了将近90% 而 GE 涨了约230%! 这完美验证了Smith 教授的“道之诅咒。”

根据 “道之诅咒”的历史规律,持有的 Nvidia 的是不是应该换成 Intel ?再加上特朗普很可能会扶持本国企业- made in the United States - Intel 很可能会凤凰涅槃,再现辉煌。

Gary Smith 教授的原文节选及链接:
A study I did with two of my students a few years ago looked at every change in the Dow DJIA back to October 1, 1928, when the Dow expanded to 30 stocks. We compared the performance of an Addition portfolio, consisting of stocks added to the Dow over the years, with the performance of a Deletion portfolio, consisting of the stocks that were replaced. The Deletion portfolio beat the Addition portfolio by about four percentage points a year — a huge difference compounded over decades.
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If so, stock prices will often be unreasonably low for stocks going out of the Dow and undeservedly high for the stocks replacing them. When a company that is struggling regresses to the mean, its stock price will rise. When a company that is doing spectacularly regresses to the mean, its price will fall. This is why stocks booted out of the Dow so often outperform the stocks that replace them — the Curse of the Dow.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-w ... 2018-06-20

非常有意思的观点,想查查他们怎么计算的,不过引用的链接失效了:
https://economics-files.pomona.edu/Gary ... owDogs.pdf

不知道是哪篇文章,有没有介绍他们的算法
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在他主页上翻了一会,他把文章放到一个子文件夹里了
https://economics-files.pomona.edu/Gary ... owDogs.pdf

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shepherd17 写了: 06 11月 2024, 21:43

这星期 Nvidia 将替代 Intel 成为道琼斯指数成份股。乍一看,这将利好 Nvidia。但老子说过:“祸兮福所倚,福兮祸所伏。”

经济学教授 Gary Smith 和他的学生系统分析了道琼斯成份股 1928 年至2018年的数据。他们发现,替代发生之后,那些被踢出道琼斯的股票比替代股的平均回报率要高出 4%!这就是所谓的 “道之诅咒。” 一个典型的例子就是2018年 Walgreens 取代 GE 成为道琼斯的成份股,Smith 教授写他的文章时 GE 刚被踢出道琼斯。从那至今 Walgreens 跌了将近90% 而 GE 涨了约230%! 这完美验证了 Smith 教授的“道之诅咒。”

根据 “道之诅咒”的历史规律,持有的 Nvidia 是不是应该换成 Intel ?再加上特朗普很可能会扶持本国企业- made in the United States - Intel 很可能会凤凰涅槃,再现辉煌。

Gary Smith 教授的原文节选及链接:
A study I did with two of my students a few years ago looked at every change in the Dow DJIA back to October 1, 1928, when the Dow expanded to 30 stocks. We compared the performance of an Addition portfolio, consisting of stocks added to the Dow over the years, with the performance of a Deletion portfolio, consisting of the stocks that were replaced. The Deletion portfolio beat the Addition portfolio by about four percentage points a year — a huge difference compounded over decades.
...
If so, stock prices will often be unreasonably low for stocks going out of the Dow and undeservedly high for the stocks replacing them. When a company that is struggling regresses to the mean, its stock price will rise. When a company that is doing spectacularly regresses to the mean, its price will fall. This is why stocks booted out of the Dow so often outperform the stocks that replace them — the Curse of the Dow.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-w ... 2018-06-20

首先,拜登政府对intel已经大力扶持了,但是仍然不行。再次,现在主流的芯片,intel没有技术实力生产,台积电的地位没法撼动。最后,美国人的研发能力不行了,随着美国对移民的吸引力越来越低,intel这样的企业难翻生

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who 写了: 06 11月 2024, 21:52

在他主页上翻了一会,他把文章放到一个子文件夹里了
https://economics-files.pomona.edu/Gary ... owDogs.pdf

赞"who"兄弟的敬业精神👍
我粗看了PDF文章,应该就是 Smith 教授在报道中提到的他们的工作了。

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resso 写了: 06 11月 2024, 22:06

首先,拜登政府对intel已经大力扶持了,但是仍然不行。再次,现在主流的芯片,intel没有技术实力生产,台积电的地位没法撼动。最后,美国人的研发能力不行了,随着美国对移民的吸引力越来越低,intel这样的企业难翻生

星期五将是 NVDA 替代 INTC 的日子。我将记下它们各自的收盘价,看看一年后、二年后、X年后它们的涨跌幅。

让我们拭目以待!

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shepherd17 写了: 06 11月 2024, 21:43

这星期 Nvidia 将替代 Intel 成为道琼斯指数成份股。乍一看,这将利好 Nvidia。但老子说过:“祸兮福所倚,福兮祸所伏。”

经济学教授 Gary Smith 和他的学生系统分析了道琼斯成份股 1928 年至2006年的数据。他们发现,替代发生之后,那些被踢出道琼斯的股票比替代股的年平均回报率要高出4个百分点!这就是所谓的 “道之诅咒。” 一个典型的例子就是2018年 Walgreens 取代 GE 成为道琼斯的成份股。Smith 教授写他的文章时 (链接见下面) GE 刚被踢出道琼斯,从那至今 Walgreens 跌了将近90% 而 GE 涨了约230%! 这完美验证了 Smith 教授的“道之诅咒。”

根据 “道之诅咒”的历史规律,持有的 Nvidia 是不是应该换成 Intel ?再加上美国政府大力扶持本国企业、强调本土制造, Intel 很可能会凤凰涅槃、再现辉煌。

Gary Smith 教授的原文节选及链接:
A study I did with two of my students a few years ago looked at every change in the Dow DJIA back to October 1, 1928, when the Dow expanded to 30 stocks. We compared the performance of an Addition portfolio, consisting of stocks added to the Dow over the years, with the performance of a Deletion portfolio, consisting of the stocks that were replaced. The Deletion portfolio beat the Addition portfolio by about four percentage points a year — a huge difference compounded over decades.
...
If so, stock prices will often be unreasonably low for stocks going out of the Dow and undeservedly high for the stocks replacing them. When a company that is struggling regresses to the mean, its stock price will rise. When a company that is doing spectacularly regresses to the mean, its price will fall. This is why stocks booted out of the Dow so often outperform the stocks that replace them — the Curse of the Dow.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-w ... 2018-06-20

希望Dow的诅咒不要在NVDA身上出现,但希望 Intel都能再现辉煌。

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Coastlines 写了: 07 11月 2024, 07:32

希望Dow的诅咒不要在NVDA身上出现,但希望 Intel都能再现辉煌。

对,"大家都好"才算好。

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

"Today is history. Today will be remembered. Years from now the young will ask with wonder about this day. Today is history and you are part of it."

今天 NVDA 取代 INTC 进入道琼斯指数。它们的收盘价分别是:
INTC, $26.20
NVDA, $147.63

明年的11月7号,星期五,将是替代后的一周年。届时让我们看看 NVDA 能不能逃脱“道之诅咒”。

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shepherd17 写了: 08 11月 2024, 15:25

Ladies and Gentlemen,

"Today is history. Today will be remembered. Years from now the young will ask with wonder about this day. Today is history and you are part of it."

今天 NVDA 取代 INTC 进入道琼斯指数。它们的收盘价分别是:
INTC, $26.20
NVDA, $147.63

明年的11月7号,星期五,将是替代后的一周年。届时让我们看看 NVDA 能不能逃脱“道之诅咒”。

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