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Re: 654 mass shootings this year

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#11 帖子 fortyNiner »

Of course, nobody is denying that.

忘了我是谁 写了: 01 1月 2024, 09:20

谈拥枪反枪是舍本逐末
必须严打犯罪 才有资格谈控枪禁枪

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Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, while Montana the highest at 66.3%. Do you think gun laws make no difference?
汽车撞? Do you need to worry about 汽车撞 when you are in a shopping mall? In the classroom? Inside your home? Guns make no place safe.

ssgo 写了: 01 1月 2024, 09:25

现实就是造枪越来越容易,买黑枪越来越容易。
搞不枪的, 可以用汽车撞,杀伤力是一样的。 禁枪很傻。

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fortyNiner 写了: 01 1月 2024, 17:10

Of course, nobody is denying that.

难道不是民主党一天到晚喊禁枪
然后对各种犯罪睁眼闭眼推波助澜

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Crime is not a problem with a single fix. People are the root problem. Different states/people have different ways to deal with that.
Another approach is to take away the tools from the criminals. That's a separate approach. In general, blue sstates have stricter gun laws to keep guns away from criminals, and red states refuse to do that.
Just like when your kids are too young, you don't give them access to dangerous stuff like guns, knives, matches, medication, and other stuff.

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难道不是民主党一天到晚喊禁枪
然后对各种犯罪睁眼闭眼推波助澜

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fortyNiner 写了: 01 1月 2024, 17:25

Crime is not a problem with a single fix. People are the root problem. Different states/people have different ways to deal with that.
Another approach is to take away the tools from the criminals. That's a separate approach. In general, blue sstates have stricter gun laws to keep guns away from criminals, and red states refuse to do that.
Just like when your kids are too young, you don't give them access to dangerous stuff like guns, knives, matches, medication, and other stuff.

但好像蓝州犯罪率和严重性都要高?
都是一条线蚂蚱 不严惩犯罪没用。 just doomed
我也懒得辩了

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Re: 654 mass shootings this year

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#16 帖子 fortyNiner »

No, you are wrong.
The states with the highest gun ownership have much higher (66% higher) homicide rates and slightly higher violent and property crime rates (both 11%) in 2022. In 2020, those numbers were 84%, 25% and 34% higher. I posted numbers in more detail on the old site. If you want, I can look for them and repost here.
All those states with lowest gun ownership are blue states, included CA and NJ. Almost all the states with highest gun ownership are red states.

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但好像蓝州犯罪率和严重性都要高?
都是一条线蚂蚱 不严惩犯罪没用。 just doomed
我也懒得辩了

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fortyNiner 写了: 01 1月 2024, 19:57

No, you are wrong.
The states with the highest gun ownership have much higher (66% higher) homicide rates and slightly higher violent and property crime rates (both 11%) in 2022. In 2020, those numbers were 84%, 25% and 34% higher. I posted numbers in more detail on the old site. If you want, I can look for them and repost here.
All those states with lowest gun ownership are blue states, included CA and NJ. Almost all the states with highest gun ownership are red states.

I don't care!
加州伊州常常都在重新定义犯罪
搞笑的规定比比皆是 比如不是正面抢钱就不叫抢 :lol: :lol:
而就你在这里庆祝蓝州犯罪率又降低了
还有数据证明 祝贺佩服你的严谨!

不恢复死刑 不严惩犯罪
美国一起变shithole
You care blue shithole or red shithole?

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Re: 654 mass shootings this year

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#18 帖子 fortyNiner »

The definition of homicide is not changed.
Who said 不是正面抢钱就不叫抢? It is still a property crime. If committed with a gun, it is a violent crime.

Right, it does not matter if it is a blue or red shithole. So normally when talking about gun violence, I distinguish between states with high gun ownership and states with low gun ownership. If you look at my first post in this thread, red states have only 6% higher mass shootings per capita than blue states, the difference is pretty much insignificant. Tow and three years ago, blue states actually had slightly higher mass shooting per capita. It's more about gun ownership.

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I don't care!
加州伊州常常都在重新定义犯罪
搞笑的规定比比皆是 比如不是正面抢钱就不叫抢 :lol: :lol:
而就你在这里庆祝蓝州犯罪率又降低了
还有数据证明 祝贺佩服你的严谨!

不恢复死刑 不严惩犯罪
美国一起变shithole
You care blue shithole or red shithole?

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