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So simple. Just look at the 2017 LV shooting, does anyone believe that a 64-year-old can kill 60 people and injure 413 without guns?

Lilyamao 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 19:19

resso 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 18:18

不过这个不管保守派怎么spin，持枪都会导致谋杀和自杀的人增多，这个是肯定的。 你必须接受这个现实。其实共和党不如大方的说，死人多一点也是可以接受的，人人有枪就是舒服。

同意这一点

美国在发达国家里死于枪杀的、比其他发达国家多几十倍。

很多美国人就是喜欢持枪爽

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:09

So simple. Just look at the 2017 LV shooting, does anyone believe that a 64-year-old can kill 60 people and injure 413 without guns?

Lilyamao 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 19:19

同意这一点

美国在发达国家里死于枪杀的、比其他发达国家多几十倍。

很多美国人就是喜欢持枪爽

yes using a big truck.

Massachusetts and NJ have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, and Montana has the highest at 66.3%. Did Massachusetts and NJ have to 彻底收缴那些非法枪支 to achieve that low gun ownership? So don't tell us that it's not doable.

Topgolf118 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 18:47

热叟你先去彻底收缴那些非法枪支，然后再来劝我们合法公民缴枪。次序不要颠倒了。

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:13

Massachusetts and NJ have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, and Montana has the highest at 66.3%. Did Massachusetts and NJ have to 彻底收缴那些非法枪支 to achieve that low gun ownership? So don't tell us that it's not doable.

Topgolf118 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 18:47

热叟你先去彻底收缴那些非法枪支，然后再来劝我们合法公民缴枪。次序不要颠倒了。

你没有好好读楼主的帖：

麻州枪支谋杀率是高于临近的缅因州，新罕布什尔州, 尽管这两个州没啥枪支管制。

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:13

Massachusetts and NJ have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, and Montana has the highest at 66.3%. Did Massachusetts and NJ have to 彻底收缴那些非法枪支 to achieve that low gun ownership? So don't tell us that it's not doable.

Topgolf118 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 18:47

热叟你先去彻底收缴那些非法枪支，然后再来劝我们合法公民缴枪。次序不要颠倒了。

这是合法拥有， 不合法拥有的根本计算不了。

So what is the largest casualty with a big truck?
LV shooting has 60 dead, 413 gun injured, and 867 other injured.
Plus, you don't need to worry about trucks when you are in your bedroom, inside a shopping mall, in a grocery store or in school. However, guns make no place safe.

ssgo 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:11

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:09

So simple. Just look at the 2017 LV shooting, does anyone believe that a 64-year-old can kill 60 people and injure 413 without guns?

yes using a big truck.

Look at all these famous/notorious shootings. Vast majority of them were committed with guns legally purchased.
And look at the stats of states with highest gun ownership and states with lowest gun ownership. They are very different. If most of the crimes were committed with guns illegally owned, the stat should not be so different.

ssgo 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:16

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:13

Massachusetts and NJ have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, and Montana has the highest at 66.3%. Did Massachusetts and NJ have to 彻底收缴那些非法枪支 to achieve that low gun ownership? So don't tell us that it's not doable.

这是合法拥有， 不合法拥有的根本计算不了。

Because gun is only one factor.
Look at one of my previous posts upstairs please.

Topgolf118 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:15

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:13

Massachusetts and NJ have the lowest gun ownership at 14.7%, and Montana has the highest at 66.3%. Did Massachusetts and NJ have to 彻底收缴那些非法枪支 to achieve that low gun ownership? So don't tell us that it's not doable.

你没有好好读楼主的帖：

麻州枪支谋杀率是高于临近的缅因州，新罕布什尔州, 尽管这两个州没啥枪支管制。

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:17

So what is the largest casualty with a big truck?
LV shooting has 60 dead, 413 gun injured, and 867 other injured.
Plus, you don't need to worry about trucks when you are in your bedroom, inside a shopping mall, in a grocery store or in school. However, guns make no place safe.

ssgo 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:11

yes using a big truck.

2016 Nice truck attack 86 killed more than 400 hurts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice ... n%20France.

Oklahoma City bombing
A total of 168 people were killed, including 19 children, and more than 500 were injured.

911 3400 people killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

Don't bring in bomb/explosives and airplanes please, just as I don't expect anyone to bring in nuke.

Yeah, you can kill with trucks; however, I don't need to worry about trucks as long as I am not on the roadside. Plus, that truck attack was kind of like a surprise attack since most people did not expect that. Otherwise some victims could have run away from it.

ssgo 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:23

fortyNiner 写了： ↑08 1月 2024, 20:17

So what is the largest casualty with a big truck?
LV shooting has 60 dead, 413 gun injured, and 867 other injured.
Plus, you don't need to worry about trucks when you are in your bedroom, inside a shopping mall, in a grocery store or in school. However, guns make no place safe.

2016 Nice truck attack 86 killed more than 400 hurts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice ... n%20France.

Oklahoma City bombing
A total of 168 people were killed, including 19 children, and more than 500 were injured.

911 3400 people killed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks