俄罗斯攻占武赫勒达尔

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俄罗斯攻占武赫勒达尔

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Russia has captured the key eastern Ukrainian town of Vuhledar, ending months of resistance and underscoring the scale of Kyiv’s challenge as it heads into its third wartime winter.

Footage verified by CNN showed troops waving the Russian flag over the ruins of the city hall of the devastated town, whose population has dropped from around 14,000 to just over a hundred.

Ukraine’s military confirmed its withdrawal from Vuhledar Wednesday, noting Russia had managed to send reserves on the flanks, leading to the “threat of encirclement.” The decision to withdraw, it said, was taken “to save personnel and military equipment.”

A key goal of Russia’s President Vladimir Putin is to take the whole of the eastern Donbas region. Russia has been making incremental gains this year in the east and the loss comes as Ukraine’s President Zelensky returns from a meeting with US President Joe Biden without his key demands met.

Vladimir Putin's nuclear warning came as Ukraine presses the United States to provide long-range weapons that would allow it to strike deep within Russia.
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Vuhledar, a town built around a coal mine (its name comes from the Ukrainian word for coal), sits some 50km (30 miles) south of Pokrovsk, viewed for the past few months as Russia’s main nexus of attack in the east.

While not a transport and logistics hub like Pokrovsk, Vuhledar was heavily fortified and viewed as a crucial bastion at the intersection of Ukraine’s eastern and southern fronts. One prominent Russian war blogger Boris Rozhin said this made the victory “operational, if not operational-strategic.”

“The fact is that this ‘balcony’ [an apparent reference to Vuhledar’s elevated position] was located at the junction of the Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk fronts posed a constant threat to the grouping that covered the approaches to Mariupol,” he noted, referring to the southern Ukrainian city that has been in Russian hands since 2022.

Just like Avdiivka, another strategic eastern town which fell in February, Vuhledar is a victim, not of Russian strategic prowess, but brute force attrition.

For two years Ukraine had put up a formidable defense there, as Russia tried and failed several times to take the town.

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昨天看 TVBS 新闻大白话,说 Pokrovsk 正面防线的乌军丢下伤兵后撤,有防线崩溃的迹象。

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洪荒之前 写了: 02 10月 2024, 11:22

昨天看 TVBS 新闻大白话,说 Pokrovsk 正面防线的乌军丢下伤兵后撤,有防线崩溃的迹象。

这种每天打几十几百米的阵地战,不存在防线崩溃的问题。哪怕现挖战壕都来的及

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resso 写了: 02 10月 2024, 12:33
洪荒之前 写了: 02 10月 2024, 11:22

昨天看 TVBS 新闻大白话,说 Pokrovsk 正面防线的乌军丢下伤兵后撤,有防线崩溃的迹象。

这种每天打几十几百米的阵地战,不存在防线崩溃的问题。哪怕现挖战壕都来的及

这种仗说明乌军前线缺乏填线兵力。说明乌军总部不太关心丢几个村子甚至城市。估计总部给前线的指令就是没有增援,用空间换时间,拖到泥浆期就是胜利。

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好像是被包围。
打这种阵地战,乌军应该吃亏,没火力优势。

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洪荒之前 写了: 02 10月 2024, 11:22

昨天看 TVBS 新闻大白话,说 Pokrovsk 正面防线的乌军丢下伤兵后撤,有防线崩溃的迹象。

你不会是听了光头亮哥的节目吧? :D

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牛河梁 写了: 02 10月 2024, 13:00
resso 写了: 02 10月 2024, 12:33

这种每天打几十几百米的阵地战,不存在防线崩溃的问题。哪怕现挖战壕都来的及

这种仗说明乌军前线缺乏填线兵力。说明乌军总部不太关心丢几个村子甚至城市。估计总部给前线的指令就是没有增援,用空间换时间,拖到泥浆期就是胜利。

或者说,硬顶死人太多,不如给俄军造成杀伤以后,就撤

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resso 写了: 02 10月 2024, 15:28
牛河梁 写了: 02 10月 2024, 13:00

这种仗说明乌军前线缺乏填线兵力。说明乌军总部不太关心丢几个村子甚至城市。估计总部给前线的指令就是没有增援,用空间换时间,拖到泥浆期就是胜利。

或者说,硬顶死人太多,不如给俄军造成杀伤以后,就撤

优势兵力装备硬顶死人也不会多。

现在是兵力装备调配到其它战场。

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resso 写了: 02 10月 2024, 15:28
牛河梁 写了: 02 10月 2024, 13:00

这种仗说明乌军前线缺乏填线兵力。说明乌军总部不太关心丢几个村子甚至城市。估计总部给前线的指令就是没有增援,用空间换时间,拖到泥浆期就是胜利。

或者说,硬顶死人太多,不如给俄军造成杀伤以后,就撤

我觉得也是

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牛河梁 写了: 02 10月 2024, 20:32
resso 写了: 02 10月 2024, 15:28

或者说,硬顶死人太多,不如给俄军造成杀伤以后,就撤

优势兵力装备硬顶死人也不会多。

现在是兵力装备调配到其它战场。

数量上无论如何是不如俄国多,质量上也没有明显代差,所以交换比很重要

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