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CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:29
dragonfly

CNN一贯做法,标题就带有明显的偏向性。不过无论如何,众院很快就投票了。
共和党选民中,支持释放爱泼斯坦文件,彻查爱泼斯坦案件的人,绝不会比民主党少,毕竟共和党选民更注重法制和传统道德。但释放爱泼斯坦文件,是为了维护法律正义, 替受害者伸冤, 而不是用来打击政敌。

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/joh ... 04680.html


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:30
resso

maga是maga,共和党是共和党,正经共和党,一六就和川普分道扬镳了


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:34
dragonfly

Why didn't democrats release Epstein files during Biden administration?
Chatgpt:
Good question. There’s no single smoking-gun answer, but a mix of legal, institutional, and political factors help explain why Democrats (and the Biden administration) didn’t—or couldn’t—just “release Epstein files” wholesale from 2021–2024. Here’s a breakdown of the main reasons based on public reporting:

Key Reasons Epstein Files Were Not Fully Released Under Biden

Legal Constraints / Grand-Jury Secrecy

Many Epstein documents consist of grand-jury testimony. By law (e.g., Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e)), grand jury materials are kept secret unless a judge unseals them under very specific conditions.
CNBC
+2
67nj
+2

Courts have been reluctant to unseal a lot of this material: some judges have rejected requests, citing victim privacy and that the public interest did not clearly outweigh those concerns.
Newsweek
+1

Prosecutors argued in court that much of the sealed material “does not expose any additional third-parties to allegations of wrongdoing.”
The Washington Post
+1

Victim Privacy & Protection

Epstein’s case involves very sensitive testimony, including that of minors; releasing unredacted files could risk re-traumatizing victims or exposing identifying information.
PolitiFact
+2
CNBC
+2

Some of the sealing was explicitly done to protect victims.
The Washington Post

According to PolitiFact, some Democratic lawmakers said their oversight and public calls were “tempered by a need to respect both the victims’ pursuit of justice in courts and their fears of reprisals.”
PolitiFact
+1

Ongoing / Sensitive Investigations

During Biden’s presidency, investigations related to Epstein’s network (including the Maxwell case) were still active. Releasing all records prematurely could compromise probes or legal strategy.
CONGRESS.NET

According to some reporting, the DOJ told Democratic lawmakers to “cut it off” on certain aggressive oversight or subpoenas because of concerns it would jeopardize ongoing proceedings.
PolitiFact

Separation of Powers / DOJ Independence

The President can’t just unilaterally declassify or release sealed court materials. Many of these documents are under court order, not simply “government files,” so executive power is limited.
Newsweek

The Biden administration often pointed to DOJ independence; they were cautious about intervening directly because doing so could undermine that principle.
Newsweek

Lack of a “Bombshell” Political Incentive

Some analysts argue that Biden didn’t have a strong political upside to force a full release. If the documents didn’t clearly incriminate key political rivals, there may have been less pressure from his side to push for a risky unsealing.
67nj
+1

As one write-up put it: if the files mostly contained social associations or flight logs (rather than a list of criminal “clients” or a smoking-gun “client list”), then the administration might have judged the public benefit of releasing everything didn’t justify the legal risks.
67nj

Democratic Efforts Were More Limited / Strategic

According to PolitiFact, Democrats did try to get more transparency (e.g., seeking hearings, requesting records), but their efforts were somewhat constrained.
PolitiFact

Some proposals were made to legislate more transparency, but they didn’t always succeed.
WUSF

Bottom Line

It wasn’t just “Democrats being lazy or protective” — there were real legal barriers (grand-jury rules, sealed materials), victim protection issues, and ongoing investigations that made automatic full disclosure very difficult.

The Biden administration was cautious, likely seeing more risk than reward in trying to force a broad unsealing, especially without strong court backing.

Some release did happen, but the most sensitive materials remained under seal — and that decision largely came from the judiciary or DOJ, not simply from a political calculation.


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:37
resso
dragonfly 写了: 14 11月 2025, 11:34

Why didn't democrats release Epstein files during Biden administration?
Chatgpt:
Good question. There’s no single smoking-gun answer, but a mix of legal, institutional, and political factors help explain why Democrats (and the Biden administration) didn’t—or couldn’t—just “release Epstein files” wholesale from 2021–2024. Here’s a breakdown of the main reasons based on public reporting:

Key Reasons Epstein Files Were Not Fully Released Under Biden

Legal Constraints / Grand-Jury Secrecy

Many Epstein documents consist of grand-jury testimony. By law (e.g., Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e)), grand jury materials are kept secret unless a judge unseals them under very specific conditions.
CNBC
+2
67nj
+2

Courts have been reluctant to unseal a lot of this material: some judges have rejected requests, citing victim privacy and that the public interest did not clearly outweigh those concerns.
Newsweek
+1

Prosecutors argued in court that much of the sealed material “does not expose any additional third-parties to allegations of wrongdoing.”
The Washington Post
+1

Victim Privacy & Protection

Epstein’s case involves very sensitive testimony, including that of minors; releasing unredacted files could risk re-traumatizing victims or exposing identifying information.
PolitiFact
+2
CNBC
+2

Some of the sealing was explicitly done to protect victims.
The Washington Post

According to PolitiFact, some Democratic lawmakers said their oversight and public calls were “tempered by a need to respect both the victims’ pursuit of justice in courts and their fears of reprisals.”
PolitiFact
+1

Ongoing / Sensitive Investigations

During Biden’s presidency, investigations related to Epstein’s network (including the Maxwell case) were still active. Releasing all records prematurely could compromise probes or legal strategy.
CONGRESS.NET

According to some reporting, the DOJ told Democratic lawmakers to “cut it off” on certain aggressive oversight or subpoenas because of concerns it would jeopardize ongoing proceedings.
PolitiFact

Separation of Powers / DOJ Independence

The President can’t just unilaterally declassify or release sealed court materials. Many of these documents are under court order, not simply “government files,” so executive power is limited.
Newsweek

The Biden administration often pointed to DOJ independence; they were cautious about intervening directly because doing so could undermine that principle.
Newsweek

Lack of a “Bombshell” Political Incentive

Some analysts argue that Biden didn’t have a strong political upside to force a full release. If the documents didn’t clearly incriminate key political rivals, there may have been less pressure from his side to push for a risky unsealing.
67nj
+1

As one write-up put it: if the files mostly contained social associations or flight logs (rather than a list of criminal “clients” or a smoking-gun “client list”), then the administration might have judged the public benefit of releasing everything didn’t justify the legal risks.
67nj

Democratic Efforts Were More Limited / Strategic

According to PolitiFact, Democrats did try to get more transparency (e.g., seeking hearings, requesting records), but their efforts were somewhat constrained.
PolitiFact

Some proposals were made to legislate more transparency, but they didn’t always succeed.
WUSF

Bottom Line

It wasn’t just “Democrats being lazy or protective” — there were real legal barriers (grand-jury rules, sealed materials), victim protection issues, and ongoing investigations that made automatic full disclosure very difficult.

The Biden administration was cautious, likely seeing more risk than reward in trying to force a broad unsealing, especially without strong court backing.

Some release did happen, but the most sensitive materials remained under seal — and that decision largely came from the judiciary or DOJ, not simply from a political calculation.

要不是拜登偷了大选,俄乌战争就打不起来啦。


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:39
dragonfly

why didn't Republicans release Epstein files during Trump administration from 2016 to 2020 and from 2025 till now?

ChatGPT
Great question. The situation with Epstein-related files under Trump is complicated. Some of the reasons why Republicans (and the Trump administration) didn’t fully release Epstein files — or at least ran into big roadblocks — are similar to the challenges Democrats faced, plus some unique dynamics. Here’s a breakdown:

Key Reasons Why Republicans / Trump Didn’t (or Couldn’t) Release Everything

Grand Jury Secrecy

Much of the Epstein material involves grand jury testimony, which is legally protected. Under U.S. federal law, grand-jury proceedings are secret, and there are very limited exceptions for unsealing transcripts.
ABC News
+2
TIME
+2

When the Trump DOJ tried to unseal some of these transcripts, judges rejected the requests. For example, a judge said the 70 pages of Epstein grand jury transcripts in question “pale in comparison” to the 100,000+ pages of other Epstein material the DOJ already has.
KSAT
+1

In Florida, a judge denied a request to release older grand jury transcripts from investigations in 2005 and 2007, ruling that the request didn’t meet “extraordinary exceptions” needed to unseal such material.
PBS
+1

Judicial Pushback

The courts have been skeptical that unsealing the grand jury transcripts would actually reveal much new. For instance, Judge Paul Engelmayer (in New York) said unsealing Maxwell-related grand jury testimony wouldn’t “reveal new information of any consequence.”
CNBC

These judges emphasized that secrecy of grand jury proceedings is a long-held principle in U.S. law, and just because there’s public interest doesn’t automatically justify full release.
CNBC
+1

Volume vs. Substance

According to court filings, the DOJ already has vastly more material beyond the grand jury records — the investigative “file” is huge (e.g., 100,000 pages) — so the grand jury transcripts represent only a very small slice of what was collected.
mariettatimes.com
+1

Some judges have suggested that the most sensational “client list” conspiracies might not actually live in the grand jury materials at all — or at least not in a form that justifies unsealing under the law.
TIME

Victim Privacy

Just like for other administrations, there are serious concerns about victim identities and privacy. Redacting these details is necessary, which complicates any wholesale release.
The Washington Post
+1

Courts often must balance public interest against the risk to victims, and in several rulings, judges sided with keeping parts of the records under seal.
KSAT
+1

Institutional / Political Constraints

Even when Trump expressed a desire to unseal more (e.g., in 2025 he publicly pushed for the release of “any and all pertinent” grand jury testimony)
CNBC
+2
Al Jazeera
+2
— he needed court approval, so it's not just a matter of executive will.

The DOJ under Trump did file motions to unseal, but they had to navigate the legal system, and judges didn’t necessarily agree to release everything.
The Washington Post

Some of the pushback could also be pragmatic: litigation risk, potential exposure of sensitive details, or political fallout from what might be in the files.

Timing & Priorities

During 2016–2020, Epstein was arrested in 2019; a lot of investigations and legal work were ongoing, and not all material may have been ready for public release.

Under Trump’s first term, there may have been competing priorities (e.g., other political/legal battles) that limited how aggressively the DOJ pursued or framed release of these files.

Bottom Line

It wasn’t simply a refusal: Trump’s administration did try to unseal some of the records, but faced strong legal barriers, especially around grand jury secrecy.

Judges have blocked a lot: Courts have repeatedly rejected requests to unseal, citing legal precedent and the limited usefulness of some of the transcripts.

Releasing everything is not easy: Even with the political will, there are real legal and ethical constraints (victim protection, redactions, scope of material).

Public pressure continues: As of 2025, this remains a contentious issue, with some Republicans now pushing for more transparency, and the DOJ making renewed legal moves.


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:40
resso
dragonfly 写了: 14 11月 2025, 11:39

why didn't Republicans release Epstein files during Trump administration from 2016 to 2020 and from 2025 till now?

ChatGPT
Great question. The situation with Epstein-related files under Trump is complicated. Some of the reasons why Republicans (and the Trump administration) didn’t fully release Epstein files — or at least ran into big roadblocks — are similar to the challenges Democrats faced, plus some unique dynamics. Here’s a breakdown:

Key Reasons Why Republicans / Trump Didn’t (or Couldn’t) Release Everything

Grand Jury Secrecy

Much of the Epstein material involves grand jury testimony, which is legally protected. Under U.S. federal law, grand-jury proceedings are secret, and there are very limited exceptions for unsealing transcripts.
ABC News
+2
TIME
+2

When the Trump DOJ tried to unseal some of these transcripts, judges rejected the requests. For example, a judge said the 70 pages of Epstein grand jury transcripts in question “pale in comparison” to the 100,000+ pages of other Epstein material the DOJ already has.
KSAT
+1

In Florida, a judge denied a request to release older grand jury transcripts from investigations in 2005 and 2007, ruling that the request didn’t meet “extraordinary exceptions” needed to unseal such material.
PBS
+1

Judicial Pushback

The courts have been skeptical that unsealing the grand jury transcripts would actually reveal much new. For instance, Judge Paul Engelmayer (in New York) said unsealing Maxwell-related grand jury testimony wouldn’t “reveal new information of any consequence.”
CNBC

These judges emphasized that secrecy of grand jury proceedings is a long-held principle in U.S. law, and just because there’s public interest doesn’t automatically justify full release.
CNBC
+1

Volume vs. Substance

According to court filings, the DOJ already has vastly more material beyond the grand jury records — the investigative “file” is huge (e.g., 100,000 pages) — so the grand jury transcripts represent only a very small slice of what was collected.
mariettatimes.com
+1

Some judges have suggested that the most sensational “client list” conspiracies might not actually live in the grand jury materials at all — or at least not in a form that justifies unsealing under the law.
TIME

Victim Privacy

Just like for other administrations, there are serious concerns about victim identities and privacy. Redacting these details is necessary, which complicates any wholesale release.
The Washington Post
+1

Courts often must balance public interest against the risk to victims, and in several rulings, judges sided with keeping parts of the records under seal.
KSAT
+1

Institutional / Political Constraints

Even when Trump expressed a desire to unseal more (e.g., in 2025 he publicly pushed for the release of “any and all pertinent” grand jury testimony)
CNBC
+2
Al Jazeera
+2
— he needed court approval, so it's not just a matter of executive will.

The DOJ under Trump did file motions to unseal, but they had to navigate the legal system, and judges didn’t necessarily agree to release everything.
The Washington Post

Some of the pushback could also be pragmatic: litigation risk, potential exposure of sensitive details, or political fallout from what might be in the files.

Timing & Priorities

During 2016–2020, Epstein was arrested in 2019; a lot of investigations and legal work were ongoing, and not all material may have been ready for public release.

Under Trump’s first term, there may have been competing priorities (e.g., other political/legal battles) that limited how aggressively the DOJ pursued or framed release of these files.

Bottom Line

It wasn’t simply a refusal: Trump’s administration did try to unseal some of the records, but faced strong legal barriers, especially around grand jury secrecy.

Judges have blocked a lot: Courts have repeatedly rejected requests to unseal, citing legal precedent and the limited usefulness of some of the transcripts.

Releasing everything is not easy: Even with the political will, there are real legal and ethical constraints (victim protection, redactions, scope of material).

Public pressure continues: As of 2025, this remains a contentious issue, with some Republicans now pushing for more transparency, and the DOJ making renewed legal moves.

😂,老楓来了


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:40
dragonfly

正经共和党,不可能同如今的民主党同流合污。

resso 写了: 14 11月 2025, 11:30

maga是maga,共和党是共和党,正经共和党,一六就和川普分道扬镳了


Re: CNN: Johnson shifts strategy on Epstein files vote

发表于 : 14 11月 2025, 11:45
resso
dragonfly 写了: 14 11月 2025, 11:40

正经共和党,不可能同如今的民主党同流合污。

resso 写了: 14 11月 2025, 11:30

maga是maga,共和党是共和党,正经共和党,一六就和川普分道扬镳了

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