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根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 07:36
shepherd17

美国国会 “冠状病毒大流行病”(Coronavirus Pandemic) 调查委员会中共和党一方本周发布了长达520页的调查报告 (https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... RT-ANS.pdf)。在报告中他们认为“2019冠状病毒病”很可能起源于武汉某个实验室 (COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan),然而该报告没有提供任何新的直接的证据 (no new direct evidence) 支持他们的论断。

与此同时,该调查委员会中民主党一方针锋相对也发布了他们的调查报告 (https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/si ... Report.pdf),这个报告57页。

共和党的主要结论
A summary of the information can be found below:
The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research
COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:

  1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
  2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
  3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
  4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
  5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.
    PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.
    GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability.
    ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE INC. (ECOHEALTH): EcoHealth — under the leadership of Dr. Peter Daszak — used U.S. taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China. After the Select Subcommittee released evidence of EcoHealth violating the terms of its National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) commenced official debarment proceedings and suspended all funding to EcoHealth.
    • New evidence also shows that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has opened an investigation into EcoHealth’s pandemic-era activities.
    NIH FAILURES: NIH’s procedures for funding and overseeing potentially dangerous research are deficient, unreliable, and pose a serious threat to both public health and national security. Further, NIH fostered an environment that promoted evading federal record keeping laws — as seen through the actions of Dr. David Morens and “FOIA Lady” Marge Moore.
    ________________________________________
    The Efficacy, Effectiveness, and Transparency of the Use of Taxpayer Funds and Relief Programs to Address the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including Any Reports of Waste, Fraud, or Abuse
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING: Federal and state governments had significant lapses in coordination, were unprepared to oversee the allocation of COVID-19 relief funds, and failed to sufficiently identify waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars during the pandemic.
    PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM: The Paycheck Protection Program — which offered essential relief to Americans in the form of loans that could be forgiven if the funds were used to offset pandemic-era hardships — was rife with fraudulent claims resulting in at least $64 billion of taxpayers’ dollars lost to fraudsters and criminals.
    FRADULENT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS: Fraudsters cost the American taxpayer more than $191 billion dollars by taking advantage of the federal government’s unemployment system and exploiting individuals’ personally identifiable information.
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (SBA) FAILURES: $200 million of taxpayers’ dollars were lost as a result of the SBA’s inability to conduct proper oversight, implement internal controls, and ensure fraud protection measures were enacted.
    TRANSNATIONAL FRAUD: At least half of the taxpayer dollars lost in COVID-19 relief programs were stolen by international fraudsters.
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING OVERSIGHT: Expanding relief programs that lacked proper oversight functions exposed severe vulnerabilities in the system and paved the way for fraudsters, international criminals, and foreign adversaries to take advantage of taxpayers.
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/fin ... h-forward/

民主党的主要结论
Over the past two years, Select Subcommittee Democrats found:
• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ “COVID origins” probe failed to find the virus’s origins or advance our understanding of how the novel coronavirus came to be.
o Dr. Fauci did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign. He did not orchestrate the Proximal Origin paper, he did not bribe that paper’s authors with federal funding, and he did not direct National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) staff to manipulate public media coverage of the issue.

o EcoHealth Alliance (EHA) did not create SARS-CoV-2 and cause the COVID-19 pandemic. The viruses studied under the grant and the Wuhan Institute of Virology subaward are too genetically distant from SARS-CoV-2 to have caused the pandemic.

o Similarly, Dr. Fauci did not create SARS-CoV-2. There is no evidence that the viruses studied under NIAID grants caused the COVID-19 pandemic, or that Dr. Fauci was even aware of the EHA grant until after the outbreak.

o Dr. Fauci did not lie to Congress regarding gain-of-function research at WIV. Dr. Fauci’s prior Senate testimony explicitly referred to the regulatory definition of the term “gain-of-function,” rather than to an informal usage of the term, and his testimony was accurate in that respect.

o Dr. Daszak, President of EHA, and EHA may have misled the federal government about their work and participated in other questionable conduct. As a grantee, EHA’s questionable conduct spanned administrative issues, such as annual reporting requirements, and substantive scientific issues, such as representations of its work in communications with NIAID staff. Dr. Daszak also engaged in conduct outside the scope of EHA’s grant that raises reasonable questions regarding his professional integrity.

o Dr. David Morens, a NIAID employee, exhibited professional conduct that was unbecoming of a public servant when he seemingly attempted to evade Freedom of Information Act and Public Records Act requirements.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ investigation into New York State’s nursing home policy underscored damage caused by the Trump Administration’s failed pandemic response and emphasized the necessity of transparency from elected officials during public health crises.
o The Trump Administration’s disastrous pandemic response led to the uncontrolled spread of COVID-19 in nursing homes across the country.

o The Cuomo Administration interfered with the data reporting of its Department of Health.

o The Trump Administration deceived the American public about the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ probe into the Biden-Harris Administration’s safe and swift reopening of schools failed to substantiate baseless allegations of undue influence over Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance.
o CDC developed guidance to reopen schools quickly while keeping students and staff safe from COVID-19.

o CDC consulted a wide range of stakeholders before the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) was even aware the guidance was forthcoming.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans assailed essential public health measures that protected Americans from COVID-19, including vaccines and social distancing.

At the expense of coming together around forward-looking work to prevent and prepare for future pandemics, Select Subcommittee Republicans spent the 118th Congress advancing a political agenda that has contributed little to the essential work of getting ahead of future public health crises and saving future lives.
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/ne ... nal-report


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 07:50
shepherd17

我马上要开会。我还要搞年终评估总结,就不参与大家的评论了。两周后再见。


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 07:52
who
shepherd17 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:36

美国国会 “冠状病毒大流行病”(Coronavirus Pandemic) 调查委员会中共和党一方本周发布了长达520页的调查报告 (https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... RT-ANS.pdf)。在报告中他们认为“2019冠状病毒病”很可能起源于武汉某个实验室 (COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan),然而该报告没有提供任何新的直接的证据 (no new direct evidence) 支持他们的论断。

与此同时,该调查委员会中民主党一方针锋相对也发布了他们的调查报告 (https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/si ... Report.pdf),这个报告57页。

共和党的主要结论
A summary of the information can be found below:
The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research
COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:

  1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
  2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
  3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
  4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
  5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.
    PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.
    GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability.
    ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE INC. (ECOHEALTH): EcoHealth — under the leadership of Dr. Peter Daszak — used U.S. taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China. After the Select Subcommittee released evidence of EcoHealth violating the terms of its National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) commenced official debarment proceedings and suspended all funding to EcoHealth.
    • New evidence also shows that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has opened an investigation into EcoHealth’s pandemic-era activities.
    NIH FAILURES: NIH’s procedures for funding and overseeing potentially dangerous research are deficient, unreliable, and pose a serious threat to both public health and national security. Further, NIH fostered an environment that promoted evading federal record keeping laws — as seen through the actions of Dr. David Morens and “FOIA Lady” Marge Moore.
    ________________________________________
    The Efficacy, Effectiveness, and Transparency of the Use of Taxpayer Funds and Relief Programs to Address the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including Any Reports of Waste, Fraud, or Abuse
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING: Federal and state governments had significant lapses in coordination, were unprepared to oversee the allocation of COVID-19 relief funds, and failed to sufficiently identify waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars during the pandemic.
    PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM: The Paycheck Protection Program — which offered essential relief to Americans in the form of loans that could be forgiven if the funds were used to offset pandemic-era hardships — was rife with fraudulent claims resulting in at least $64 billion of taxpayers’ dollars lost to fraudsters and criminals.
    FRADULENT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS: Fraudsters cost the American taxpayer more than $191 billion dollars by taking advantage of the federal government’s unemployment system and exploiting individuals’ personally identifiable information.
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (SBA) FAILURES: $200 million of taxpayers’ dollars were lost as a result of the SBA’s inability to conduct proper oversight, implement internal controls, and ensure fraud protection measures were enacted.
    TRANSNATIONAL FRAUD: At least half of the taxpayer dollars lost in COVID-19 relief programs were stolen by international fraudsters.
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING OVERSIGHT: Expanding relief programs that lacked proper oversight functions exposed severe vulnerabilities in the system and paved the way for fraudsters, international criminals, and foreign adversaries to take advantage of taxpayers.
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/fin ... h-forward/

民主党的主要结论
Over the past two years, Select Subcommittee Democrats found:
• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ “COVID origins” probe failed to find the virus’s origins or advance our understanding of how the novel coronavirus came to be.
o Dr. Fauci did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign. He did not orchestrate the Proximal Origin paper, he did not bribe that paper’s authors with federal funding, and he did not direct National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) staff to manipulate public media coverage of the issue.

o EcoHealth Alliance (EHA) did not create SARS-CoV-2 and cause the COVID-19 pandemic. The viruses studied under the grant and the Wuhan Institute of Virology subaward are too genetically distant from SARS-CoV-2 to have caused the pandemic.

o Similarly, Dr. Fauci did not create SARS-CoV-2. There is no evidence that the viruses studied under NIAID grants caused the COVID-19 pandemic, or that Dr. Fauci was even aware of the EHA grant until after the outbreak.

o Dr. Fauci did not lie to Congress regarding gain-of-function research at WIV. Dr. Fauci’s prior Senate testimony explicitly referred to the regulatory definition of the term “gain-of-function,” rather than to an informal usage of the term, and his testimony was accurate in that respect.

o Dr. Daszak, President of EHA, and EHA may have misled the federal government about their work and participated in other questionable conduct. As a grantee, EHA’s questionable conduct spanned administrative issues, such as annual reporting requirements, and substantive scientific issues, such as representations of its work in communications with NIAID staff. Dr. Daszak also engaged in conduct outside the scope of EHA’s grant that raises reasonable questions regarding his professional integrity.

o Dr. David Morens, a NIAID employee, exhibited professional conduct that was unbecoming of a public servant when he seemingly attempted to evade Freedom of Information Act and Public Records Act requirements.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ investigation into New York State’s nursing home policy underscored damage caused by the Trump Administration’s failed pandemic response and emphasized the necessity of transparency from elected officials during public health crises.
o The Trump Administration’s disastrous pandemic response led to the uncontrolled spread of COVID-19 in nursing homes across the country.

o The Cuomo Administration interfered with the data reporting of its Department of Health.

o The Trump Administration deceived the American public about the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ probe into the Biden-Harris Administration’s safe and swift reopening of schools failed to substantiate baseless allegations of undue influence over Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance.
o CDC developed guidance to reopen schools quickly while keeping students and staff safe from COVID-19.

o CDC consulted a wide range of stakeholders before the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) was even aware the guidance was forthcoming.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans assailed essential public health measures that protected Americans from COVID-19, including vaccines and social distancing.

At the expense of coming together around forward-looking work to prevent and prepare for future pandemics, Select Subcommittee Republicans spent the 118th Congress advancing a political agenda that has contributed little to the essential work of getting ahead of future public health crises and saving future lives.
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/ne ... nal-report

我倒,还有这回事。
想起来之前看的漫画,天气预报配了这个字幕:

That was our republican weather forecast. Next is our democrats weather forecast.


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 07:52
who
shepherd17 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:50

我马上要开会。我还要搞年终评估总结,就不参与大家的评论了。两周后再见。

好的,多赚钱


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 09:32
Lilyamao
who 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:52
shepherd17 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:36

美国国会 “冠状病毒大流行病”(Coronavirus Pandemic) 调查委员会中共和党一方本周发布了长达520页的调查报告 (https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... RT-ANS.pdf)。在报告中他们认为“2019冠状病毒病”很可能起源于武汉某个实验室 (COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan),然而该报告没有提供任何新的直接的证据 (no new direct evidence) 支持他们的论断。

与此同时,该调查委员会中民主党一方针锋相对也发布了他们的调查报告 (https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/si ... Report.pdf),这个报告57页。

共和党的主要结论
A summary of the information can be found below:
The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research
COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:

  1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
  2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
  3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
  4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
  5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.
    PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.
    GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability.
    ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE INC. (ECOHEALTH): EcoHealth — under the leadership of Dr. Peter Daszak — used U.S. taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China. After the Select Subcommittee released evidence of EcoHealth violating the terms of its National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) commenced official debarment proceedings and suspended all funding to EcoHealth.
    • New evidence also shows that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has opened an investigation into EcoHealth’s pandemic-era activities.
    NIH FAILURES: NIH’s procedures for funding and overseeing potentially dangerous research are deficient, unreliable, and pose a serious threat to both public health and national security. Further, NIH fostered an environment that promoted evading federal record keeping laws — as seen through the actions of Dr. David Morens and “FOIA Lady” Marge Moore.
    ________________________________________
    The Efficacy, Effectiveness, and Transparency of the Use of Taxpayer Funds and Relief Programs to Address the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including Any Reports of Waste, Fraud, or Abuse
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING: Federal and state governments had significant lapses in coordination, were unprepared to oversee the allocation of COVID-19 relief funds, and failed to sufficiently identify waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars during the pandemic.
    PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM: The Paycheck Protection Program — which offered essential relief to Americans in the form of loans that could be forgiven if the funds were used to offset pandemic-era hardships — was rife with fraudulent claims resulting in at least $64 billion of taxpayers’ dollars lost to fraudsters and criminals.
    FRADULENT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS: Fraudsters cost the American taxpayer more than $191 billion dollars by taking advantage of the federal government’s unemployment system and exploiting individuals’ personally identifiable information.
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (SBA) FAILURES: $200 million of taxpayers’ dollars were lost as a result of the SBA’s inability to conduct proper oversight, implement internal controls, and ensure fraud protection measures were enacted.
    TRANSNATIONAL FRAUD: At least half of the taxpayer dollars lost in COVID-19 relief programs were stolen by international fraudsters.
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING OVERSIGHT: Expanding relief programs that lacked proper oversight functions exposed severe vulnerabilities in the system and paved the way for fraudsters, international criminals, and foreign adversaries to take advantage of taxpayers.
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/fin ... h-forward/

民主党的主要结论
Over the past two years, Select Subcommittee Democrats found:
• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ “COVID origins” probe failed to find the virus’s origins or advance our understanding of how the novel coronavirus came to be.
o Dr. Fauci did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign. He did not orchestrate the Proximal Origin paper, he did not bribe that paper’s authors with federal funding, and he did not direct National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) staff to manipulate public media coverage of the issue.

o EcoHealth Alliance (EHA) did not create SARS-CoV-2 and cause the COVID-19 pandemic. The viruses studied under the grant and the Wuhan Institute of Virology subaward are too genetically distant from SARS-CoV-2 to have caused the pandemic.

o Similarly, Dr. Fauci did not create SARS-CoV-2. There is no evidence that the viruses studied under NIAID grants caused the COVID-19 pandemic, or that Dr. Fauci was even aware of the EHA grant until after the outbreak.

o Dr. Fauci did not lie to Congress regarding gain-of-function research at WIV. Dr. Fauci’s prior Senate testimony explicitly referred to the regulatory definition of the term “gain-of-function,” rather than to an informal usage of the term, and his testimony was accurate in that respect.

o Dr. Daszak, President of EHA, and EHA may have misled the federal government about their work and participated in other questionable conduct. As a grantee, EHA’s questionable conduct spanned administrative issues, such as annual reporting requirements, and substantive scientific issues, such as representations of its work in communications with NIAID staff. Dr. Daszak also engaged in conduct outside the scope of EHA’s grant that raises reasonable questions regarding his professional integrity.

o Dr. David Morens, a NIAID employee, exhibited professional conduct that was unbecoming of a public servant when he seemingly attempted to evade Freedom of Information Act and Public Records Act requirements.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ investigation into New York State’s nursing home policy underscored damage caused by the Trump Administration’s failed pandemic response and emphasized the necessity of transparency from elected officials during public health crises.
o The Trump Administration’s disastrous pandemic response led to the uncontrolled spread of COVID-19 in nursing homes across the country.

o The Cuomo Administration interfered with the data reporting of its Department of Health.

o The Trump Administration deceived the American public about the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ probe into the Biden-Harris Administration’s safe and swift reopening of schools failed to substantiate baseless allegations of undue influence over Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance.
o CDC developed guidance to reopen schools quickly while keeping students and staff safe from COVID-19.

o CDC consulted a wide range of stakeholders before the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) was even aware the guidance was forthcoming.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans assailed essential public health measures that protected Americans from COVID-19, including vaccines and social distancing.

At the expense of coming together around forward-looking work to prevent and prepare for future pandemics, Select Subcommittee Republicans spent the 118th Congress advancing a political agenda that has contributed little to the essential work of getting ahead of future public health crises and saving future lives.
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/ne ... nal-report

我倒,还有这回事。
想起来之前看的漫画,天气预报配了这个字幕:

That was our republican weather forecast. Next is our democrats weather forecast.

这句太搞笑了。

关于新冠病毒起源,我老趴在网上这么多年,加上国内国外信息灵通, 生物界也是我老公的大本行,有一些武汉那边的内幕消息

基本上如此

  1. SARS之后, 流行病学界就希望能研究冠状病毒,并且研发疫苗,以防止下一次更凶险的大流行爆发,
  2. 美国NIH 显然是支持这种研究的, 和中国也有合作
  3. 云南蝙蝠的冠状病毒被武汉P4实验室用来做研究
  4. 相关实验动物本来按照P4的标准,绝对应该是按照医学废品特殊处理消灭的
  5. 但是老中就是穷在根子里,无论是底层研究员或者是清洁工或者是处理环节的人,大家都有把实验动物拿去吃了或者卖了的习惯,煮熟了一般确实也没问题,这个事情,医学院的人都承认当年起码炖过实验用兔子,经常加个餐。
  6. somehow 武汉实验室的猴子或者啥实验动物被旁边的海鲜市场卖了, 过程当中传染到人。
  7. Fauci当年就被责问过是不是实验室泄露,但是病毒片段说明这个病毒没有被人工编辑过, 所以fauci的回复是,即使是实验室泄露,也说明它还是原始野生起源,不是人工编辑病毒,所以说野生起源并无问题。

Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 09:42
牛大春

这个问题 legacy media 早就有结论了:两党内耗,中国得利。


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 09:57
Lilyamao
牛大春 写了: 06 12月 2024, 09:42

这个问题 legacy media 早就有结论了:两党内耗,中国得利。

中国怎么得利呢?


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 09:57
牛大春
Lilyamao 写了: 06 12月 2024, 09:57
牛大春 写了: 06 12月 2024, 09:42

这个问题 legacy media 早就有结论了:两党内耗,中国得利。

中国怎么得利呢?

中国可以大大方方不鸟它们啊……


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 11:25
who
Lilyamao 写了: 06 12月 2024, 09:32
who 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:52

我倒,还有这回事。
想起来之前看的漫画,天气预报配了这个字幕:

That was our republican weather forecast. Next is our democrats weather forecast.

这句太搞笑了。

关于新冠病毒起源,我老趴在网上这么多年,加上国内国外信息灵通, 生物界也是我老公的大本行,有一些武汉那边的内幕消息

基本上如此

  1. SARS之后, 流行病学界就希望能研究冠状病毒,并且研发疫苗,以防止下一次更凶险的大流行爆发,
  2. 美国NIH 显然是支持这种研究的, 和中国也有合作
  3. 云南蝙蝠的冠状病毒被武汉P4实验室用来做研究
  4. 相关实验动物本来按照P4的标准,绝对应该是按照医学废品特殊处理消灭的
  5. 但是老中就是穷在根子里,无论是底层研究员或者是清洁工或者是处理环节的人,大家都有把实验动物拿去吃了或者卖了的习惯,煮熟了一般确实也没问题,这个事情,医学院的人都承认当年起码炖过实验用兔子,经常加个餐。
  6. somehow 武汉实验室的猴子或者啥实验动物被旁边的海鲜市场卖了, 过程当中传染到人。
  7. Fauci当年就被责问过是不是实验室泄露,但是病毒片段说明这个病毒没有被人工编辑过, 所以fauci的回复是,即使是实验室泄露,也说明它还是原始野生起源,不是人工编辑病毒,所以说野生起源并无问题。

上面说的第六条,牵涉到三个地址:
a. 海鲜市场
b. 病毒所
c. P4实验室
根据公开的信息, a 和 b 离得比较近,和 c 离得都比较远。冠状病毒的高级别实验应该是在 c 进行。


Re: 根据政治需要来决定新冠病毒的起源

发表于 : 06 12月 2024, 11:37
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shepherd17 写了: 06 12月 2024, 07:36

美国国会 “冠状病毒大流行病”(Coronavirus Pandemic) 调查委员会中共和党一方本周发布了长达520页的调查报告 (https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/ ... RT-ANS.pdf)。在报告中他们认为“2019冠状病毒病”很可能起源于武汉某个实验室 (COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan),然而该报告没有提供任何新的直接的证据 (no new direct evidence) 支持他们的论断。

与此同时,该调查委员会中民主党一方针锋相对也发布了他们的调查报告 (https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/si ... Report.pdf),这个报告57页。

共和党的主要结论
A summary of the information can be found below:
The Origins of the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including but Not Limited to the Federal Government’s Funding of Gain-of-Function Research
COVID-19 ORIGIN: COVID-19 most likely emerged from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. The FIVE strongest arguments in favor of the “lab leak” theory include:

  1. The virus possesses a biological characteristic that is not found in nature.
  2. Data shows that all COVID-19 cases stem from a single introduction into humans. This runs contrary to previous pandemics where there were multiple spillover events.
  3. Wuhan is home to China’s foremost SARS research lab, which has a history of conducting gain-of-function research at inadequate biosafety levels.
  4. Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researchers were sick with a COVID-like virus in the fall of 2019, months before COVID-19 was discovered at the wet market.
  5. By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced.
    PROXIMAL ORIGIN PUBLICATION: “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” publication — which was used repeatedly by public health officials and the media to discredit the lab leak theory — was prompted by Dr. Fauci to push the preferred narrative that COVID-19 originated in nature.
    GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH: A lab-related incident involving gain-of-function research is most likely the origin of COVID-19. Current government mechanisms for overseeing this dangerous gain-of-function research are incomplete, severely convoluted, and lack global applicability.
    ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE INC. (ECOHEALTH): EcoHealth — under the leadership of Dr. Peter Daszak — used U.S. taxpayer dollars to facilitate dangerous gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China. After the Select Subcommittee released evidence of EcoHealth violating the terms of its National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) commenced official debarment proceedings and suspended all funding to EcoHealth.
    • New evidence also shows that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has opened an investigation into EcoHealth’s pandemic-era activities.
    NIH FAILURES: NIH’s procedures for funding and overseeing potentially dangerous research are deficient, unreliable, and pose a serious threat to both public health and national security. Further, NIH fostered an environment that promoted evading federal record keeping laws — as seen through the actions of Dr. David Morens and “FOIA Lady” Marge Moore.
    ________________________________________
    The Efficacy, Effectiveness, and Transparency of the Use of Taxpayer Funds and Relief Programs to Address the Coronavirus Pandemic, Including Any Reports of Waste, Fraud, or Abuse
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING: Federal and state governments had significant lapses in coordination, were unprepared to oversee the allocation of COVID-19 relief funds, and failed to sufficiently identify waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars during the pandemic.
    PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM: The Paycheck Protection Program — which offered essential relief to Americans in the form of loans that could be forgiven if the funds were used to offset pandemic-era hardships — was rife with fraudulent claims resulting in at least $64 billion of taxpayers’ dollars lost to fraudsters and criminals.
    FRADULENT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS: Fraudsters cost the American taxpayer more than $191 billion dollars by taking advantage of the federal government’s unemployment system and exploiting individuals’ personally identifiable information.
    SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (SBA) FAILURES: $200 million of taxpayers’ dollars were lost as a result of the SBA’s inability to conduct proper oversight, implement internal controls, and ensure fraud protection measures were enacted.
    TRANSNATIONAL FRAUD: At least half of the taxpayer dollars lost in COVID-19 relief programs were stolen by international fraudsters.
    COVID-19 RELIEF FUNDING OVERSIGHT: Expanding relief programs that lacked proper oversight functions exposed severe vulnerabilities in the system and paved the way for fraudsters, international criminals, and foreign adversaries to take advantage of taxpayers.
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/fin ... h-forward/

民主党的主要结论
Over the past two years, Select Subcommittee Democrats found:
• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ “COVID origins” probe failed to find the virus’s origins or advance our understanding of how the novel coronavirus came to be.
o Dr. Fauci did not organize a lab leak suppression campaign. He did not orchestrate the Proximal Origin paper, he did not bribe that paper’s authors with federal funding, and he did not direct National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) staff to manipulate public media coverage of the issue.

o EcoHealth Alliance (EHA) did not create SARS-CoV-2 and cause the COVID-19 pandemic. The viruses studied under the grant and the Wuhan Institute of Virology subaward are too genetically distant from SARS-CoV-2 to have caused the pandemic.

o Similarly, Dr. Fauci did not create SARS-CoV-2. There is no evidence that the viruses studied under NIAID grants caused the COVID-19 pandemic, or that Dr. Fauci was even aware of the EHA grant until after the outbreak.

o Dr. Fauci did not lie to Congress regarding gain-of-function research at WIV. Dr. Fauci’s prior Senate testimony explicitly referred to the regulatory definition of the term “gain-of-function,” rather than to an informal usage of the term, and his testimony was accurate in that respect.

o Dr. Daszak, President of EHA, and EHA may have misled the federal government about their work and participated in other questionable conduct. As a grantee, EHA’s questionable conduct spanned administrative issues, such as annual reporting requirements, and substantive scientific issues, such as representations of its work in communications with NIAID staff. Dr. Daszak also engaged in conduct outside the scope of EHA’s grant that raises reasonable questions regarding his professional integrity.

o Dr. David Morens, a NIAID employee, exhibited professional conduct that was unbecoming of a public servant when he seemingly attempted to evade Freedom of Information Act and Public Records Act requirements.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ investigation into New York State’s nursing home policy underscored damage caused by the Trump Administration’s failed pandemic response and emphasized the necessity of transparency from elected officials during public health crises.
o The Trump Administration’s disastrous pandemic response led to the uncontrolled spread of COVID-19 in nursing homes across the country.

o The Cuomo Administration interfered with the data reporting of its Department of Health.

o The Trump Administration deceived the American public about the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans’ probe into the Biden-Harris Administration’s safe and swift reopening of schools failed to substantiate baseless allegations of undue influence over Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance.
o CDC developed guidance to reopen schools quickly while keeping students and staff safe from COVID-19.

o CDC consulted a wide range of stakeholders before the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) was even aware the guidance was forthcoming.

• Select Subcommittee Republicans assailed essential public health measures that protected Americans from COVID-19, including vaccines and social distancing.

At the expense of coming together around forward-looking work to prevent and prepare for future pandemics, Select Subcommittee Republicans spent the 118th Congress advancing a political agenda that has contributed little to the essential work of getting ahead of future public health crises and saving future lives.
https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/ne ... nal-report

Fauci咬定Covid nature borne可能是他的limitation或者是他有意无意想撇清他的领导责任。 我本人认为Fauci是两党斗争的牺牲品。他怎么认为不重要,重要的是他的立场不能干扰调查。
两党争斗也有好处,让大家看得更清楚
Biden曲线与Biden可能没有关系,但是不是事实需要调查清楚,Biden的态度不能干扰调查,所以Trump上任可以有客观的调查