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Re: 今天整理笔记,看到这篇,还是很难过

发表于 : 17 5月 2026, 21:17
shepherd17
Leuning 写了: 今天, 21:15
shepherd17 写了: 今天, 21:11

不知你这个数据从哪里来的。

上面我引用的数据来自2024年的 jama:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... le/2818660

该 jama 文章中的总人数比较少,与全球总的感染死亡率差异有多大不得而知。

jama是全球顶尖医学杂志之一 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAMA)。

Google ai
周围的人,确实新冠造成的死亡蛮多,例如Latina

AI 不一定准。还是要看专业的人工统计数据。


Re: 今天整理笔记,看到这篇,还是很难过

发表于 : 17 5月 2026, 21:20
Leuning
shepherd17 写了: 今天, 21:11
Leuning 写了: 今天, 21:01

COVID-19 generally has a higher overall mortality rate, hospitalization rate, and risk of long-term death than the seasonal flu. However, the exact ratio fluctuates year-to-year and by age group, with severe flu seasons occasionally resulting in higher week-to-week mortality rates among certain demographics.Key Mortality DifferencesOverall Death Risk: Large-scale studies show that hospitalization for COVID-19 carries a higher 30-day and 180-day mortality risk than hospitalization for influenza.The Elderly Population: For individuals aged 65 and older, COVID-19 is significantly more lethal, resulting in hospitalization rates up to 10 times higher and death rates up to 4 times higher than seasonal influenza.

不知你这个数据从哪里来的。

上面我引用的数据来自2024年的 jama:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... le/2818660

该 jama 文章中的总人数比较少,与全球总的感染死亡率差异有多大不得而知。

jama是全球顶尖医学杂志之一 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAMA)。

你引用的文章第一页

In the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, risk of death in people hospitalized for COVID-19 was substantially higher than in people hospitalized for seasonal influenza.1,2 The risk of death due to COVID-19 has since declined. In fall-winter 2022-2023, people hospitalized for COVID-19 had a 60% higher risk of death compared with those hospitalized for seasonal influenza.3

最后一页
The findings should be interpreted in the context of nearly twice as many hospitalizations for COVID-19 compared with seasonal influenza during 2023-2024.5,6


Re: 今天整理笔记,看到这篇,还是很难过

发表于 : 17 5月 2026, 21:25
shepherd17
Leuning 写了: 今天, 21:20
shepherd17 写了: 今天, 21:11

不知你这个数据从哪里来的。

上面我引用的数据来自2024年的 jama:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/f ... le/2818660

该 jama 文章中的总人数比较少,与全球总的感染死亡率差异有多大不得而知。

jama是全球顶尖医学杂志之一 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAMA)。

你引用的文章第一页

In the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, risk of death in people hospitalized for COVID-19 was substantially higher than in people hospitalized for seasonal influenza.1,2 The risk of death due to COVID-19 has since declined. In fall-winter 2022-2023, people hospitalized for COVID-19 had a 60% higher risk of death compared with those hospitalized for seasonal influenza.3

对,感染新冠病毒的死亡率高于感染流感病毒的死亡率,但没有差到10倍。
Results
The cohort included 8625 participants hospitalized for COVID-19 (unadjusted death rate, 5.70% at 30 days) and 2647 participants hospitalized for seasonal influenza (unadjusted death rate, 3.04% at 30 days). The COVID-19 and seasonal influenza groups were balanced after propensity score weighting (Table 1).

Table 1
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Re: 今天整理笔记,看到这篇,还是很难过

发表于 : 17 5月 2026, 21:36
Leuning
shepherd17 写了: 今天, 21:25
Leuning 写了: 今天, 21:20

你引用的文章第一页

In the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, risk of death in people hospitalized for COVID-19 was substantially higher than in people hospitalized for seasonal influenza.1,2 The risk of death due to COVID-19 has since declined. In fall-winter 2022-2023, people hospitalized for COVID-19 had a 60% higher risk of death compared with those hospitalized for seasonal influenza.3

对,感染新冠病毒的死亡率高于感染流感病毒的死亡率,但没有差到10倍。
Results
The cohort included 8625 participants hospitalized for COVID-19 (unadjusted death rate, 5.70% at 30 days) and 2647 participants hospitalized for seasonal influenza (unadjusted death rate, 3.04% at 30 days). The COVID-19 and seasonal influenza groups were balanced after propensity score weighting (Table 1).

Table 1
图片

这篇文章的意思是: 2022到2023年新冠死亡人数是流感的三倍: 2/0.6=3.3
和Google AI 老人住院率高10倍也没什么矛盾. 如果10/0.6=16.7倍。


Re: 今天整理笔记,看到这篇,还是很难过

发表于 : 17 5月 2026, 21:45
shepherd17
Leuning 写了: 今天, 21:36
shepherd17 写了: 今天, 21:25

对,感染新冠病毒的死亡率高于感染流感病毒的死亡率,但没有差到10倍。
Results
The cohort included 8625 participants hospitalized for COVID-19 (unadjusted death rate, 5.70% at 30 days) and 2647 participants hospitalized for seasonal influenza (unadjusted death rate, 3.04% at 30 days). The COVID-19 and seasonal influenza groups were balanced after propensity score weighting (Table 1).

Table 1
图片

这篇文章的意思是: 2022到2023年新冠死亡人数是流感的三倍: 2/0.6=3.3
和Google AI 老人住院率高10倍也没什么矛盾. 如果10/0.6=16.7倍。

你最前面说两种病毒感染的死亡率有10倍的差异,jama文章统计的两种病毒感染的死亡率相差不到2倍。

好了,不说了。我要睡觉了。

你也歇歇吧。

Leuning 写了: 今天, 19:57

其实有很多人得,就是连检测也不检测,所以不aware.
基本上是让群众接受这个致死率大于流感10倍以上的传染病为常态。
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