charlie Kirk被指控的恶行，到底几条是真的？

[dragonfly]

多谢，这个视频很完整，没有剪辑。@Lilyamao重新解读一下，写个读后感吧。

Coastlines找的原始视频在此：
https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-ki ... hatgpt.com

这个是他的原文：

CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): Why is the Republican Party, why is the conservative movement to blame for gay schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry makers breaking into somebody's home -- or maybe not breaking into somebody's home? Why are we to blame for that exactly? And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out?

By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out. I bet bail's like 30 or 40 thousand bucks. Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.

I wonder what his bail is. They're going after him with attempted murder, political assassination, all of this stuff. I'm not qualifying it. I think it's awful. It's not right. But why is it that in Chicago you're able to commit murder and be out the next day? Why is that you're able to trespass, second degree murder, arson, threaten a public official, cashless bail -- this happens all over San Francisco. But if you go after the Pelosis, oh, you're let out immediately. Got it.

And, by the way, why is it that the media hasn't mentioned that they're all these, allegedly, far right websites that popped up attributed to him and then they were taken down a few days later? Who's to blame for that exactly? By the way, as soon as I read those far right websites that were supposedly attributed to him, I told my team, this is so fake. This is written as if it's a leftist trying to make it seem as if it was somebody on the right. It just seems so artificial.

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-ki ... hatgpt.com

[dragonfly]

我请ChatGPT帮忙翻译成中文，有助英文不太好的网友阅读理解。
—————
查理·柯克（主持人）：为什么共和党，为什么保守派运动要为一个同性恋、精神分裂、卖麻制饰品的裸体主义者闯进别人家——或者可能根本没闯进别人家——负责呢？我们到底为什么要为此负责？而且为什么他还在监狱里？为什么还没有被保释出来？

顺便说一句，如果在旧金山或湾区有某位了不起的爱国者，真的想在中期选举中当个英雄，就应该去把这个人保释出来。我打赌保释金大概三四万美元。把他保释出来，然后去问他一些问题。

我想知道他的保释金是多少。他们现在给他定的罪名是企图谋杀、政治暗杀，等等。我不是在为他开脱，我觉得这很糟糕，也不对。但为什么在芝加哥你可以犯下谋杀罪，第二天就能出来？为什么你可以非法入侵、二级谋杀、纵火、威胁公职人员，然后还能享受“无现金保释”？这些在旧金山到处都发生。但如果你针对的是佩洛西一家，哦，那你就立刻被关起来了。明白了。

还有，为什么媒体没有提到，那些据称与他有关的“极右翼网站”突然冒出来，然后几天后又被删除？这到底是谁的责任？顺便说一句，当我一看到那些据称属于他的“极右翼网站”时，我就跟我的团队说，这太假了。这写得就像是一个左派想要让人觉得这是右翼人士干的。感觉完全是人为捏造的。

这里视频也直接在了，两年前的

这个是他的原文：

CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): Why is the Republican Party, why is the conservative movement to blame for gay schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry makers breaking into somebody's home -- or maybe not breaking into somebody's home? Why are we to blame for that exactly? And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out?

By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out. I bet bail's like 30 or 40 thousand bucks. Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.

I wonder what his bail is. They're going after him with attempted murder, political assassination, all of this stuff. I'm not qualifying it. I think it's awful. It's not right. But why is it that in Chicago you're able to commit murder and be out the next day? Why is that you're able to trespass, second degree murder, arson, threaten a public official, cashless bail -- this happens all over San Francisco. But if you go after the Pelosis, oh, you're let out immediately. Got it.

And, by the way, why is it that the media hasn't mentioned that they're all these, allegedly, far right websites that popped up attributed to him and then they were taken down a few days later? Who's to blame for that exactly? By the way, as soon as I read those far right websites that were supposedly attributed to him, I told my team, this is so fake. This is written as if it's a leftist trying to make it seem as if it was somebody on the right. It just seems so artificial.

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-ki ... hatgpt.com

[Coastlines]

我请ChatGPT帮忙翻译成中文，有助英文不太好的网友阅读理解。
—————
查理·柯克（主持人）：为什么共和党，为什么保守派运动要为一个同性恋、精神分裂、卖麻制饰品的裸体主义者闯进别人家——或者可能根本没闯进别人家——负责呢？我们到底为什么要为此负责？而且为什么他还在监狱里？为什么还没有被保释出来？

顺便说一句，如果在旧金山或湾区有某位了不起的爱国者，真的想在中期选举中当个英雄，就应该去把这个人保释出来。我打赌保释金大概三四万美元。把他保释出来，然后去问他一些问题。

我想知道他的保释金是多少。他们现在给他定的罪名是企图谋杀、政治暗杀，等等。我不是在为他开脱，我觉得这很糟糕，也不对。但为什么在芝加哥你可以犯下谋杀罪，第二天就能出来？为什么你可以非法入侵、二级谋杀、纵火、威胁公职人员，然后还能享受“无现金保释”？这些在旧金山到处都发生。但如果你针对的是佩洛西一家，哦，那你就立刻被关起来了。明白了。

还有，为什么媒体没有提到，那些据称与他有关的“极右翼网站”突然冒出来，然后几天后又被删除？这到底是谁的责任？顺便说一句，当我一看到那些据称属于他的“极右翼网站”时，我就跟我的团队说，这太假了。这写得就像是一个左派想要让人觉得这是右翼人士干的。感觉完全是人为捏造的。

这个是他的原文：

CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): Why is the Republican Party, why is the conservative movement to blame for gay schizophrenic nudists that are hemp jewelry makers breaking into somebody's home -- or maybe not breaking into somebody's home? Why are we to blame for that exactly? And why is he still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out?

By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out. I bet bail's like 30 or 40 thousand bucks. Bail him out and then go ask him some questions.

I wonder what his bail is. They're going after him with attempted murder, political assassination, all of this stuff. I'm not qualifying it. I think it's awful. It's not right. But why is it that in Chicago you're able to commit murder and be out the next day? Why is that you're able to trespass, second degree murder, arson, threaten a public official, cashless bail -- this happens all over San Francisco. But if you go after the Pelosis, oh, you're let out immediately. Got it.

And, by the way, why is it that the media hasn't mentioned that they're all these, allegedly, far right websites that popped up attributed to him and then they were taken down a few days later? Who's to blame for that exactly? By the way, as soon as I read those far right websites that were supposedly attributed to him, I told my team, this is so fake. This is written as if it's a leftist trying to make it seem as if it was somebody on the right. It just seems so artificial.

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-ki ... hatgpt.com

真的为Charlie Kirk感到心痛

[yoyo6713]

有结论了吗？

到现在为止没有一条是真实的吧？贴的视频不是断章取义剪辑过或者是穿插评论误导人的宣传。

今天在reddit上看到有人评论为啥Kirk事件和Melissa Hortman不等同了，也贴这里吧。

Kirk 是30多年来第一个先给扭曲然后众目睽睽下实时转播暗杀的，在全国个校园里，知道Kirk的年轻人远远超过 Melissa，IG上Kirk有12.4M追随者，Melissa才3.4K. X 上是 6M vs 472
这是2件事的震惊程度和影响规模其实是完全不是同一个数量级的。
4K video也是原因之一，记得George Floyd，Rodney King也是因为摄像的缘故
还有，没有人庆祝Melissa被暗杀（至少公开的很少），但是庆祝Kirk被杀的有很多。这个坛上就有（you know who you are)。

认为两事是等同的 就跟认为自己耳朵上中一枪和白宫那位耳朵上中一枪是等同级别的一样逗人。

我只是个messenger。

[吴明芝]

You, both of you, are more than messengers.

You are liars who laced your lies with hatred, anger and hypocritical "love".

I think you agree with me, but would never admit that to yourself.

Just look at how much length you have went, on this tiny platform, to "convince" others to not trusting their own eyes and ears.

[吴明芝]

Do you really think, just because you claim "没有人庆祝Melissa被暗杀（至少公开的很少）", people would take that as facts or figure out who's death got celebrated more than the other?

You know you are just trying to manipulate.

Or do you really think, those who didn't feel guilty about that guys' death as much as you do, is because they didn't view whatever video you think is more "complete" than the other one?

I don't think so, you just try to force guilt onto others.

[吴明芝]

I should say, all three IDs of you.

[dragonfly]

你脑容量都用在阴谋论上了。

I should say, all three IDs of you.

[吴明芝]

你脑容量都用在阴谋论上了。

I should say, all three IDs of you.

sure, whatever, you are so full of love.

[yoyo6713]

You, both of you, are more than messengers.

You are liars who laced your lies with hatred, anger and hypocritical "love".

I think you agree with me, but would never admit that to yourself.

Just look at how much length you have went, on this tiny platform, to "convince" others to not trusting their own eyes and ears.

What did I say that warrant you saying that? please enlighten me.