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zz Trading is actually hard

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#1 帖子 lostsoul »

Reddit/u/allen_trades_rddt

Trading isn’t hard because of the charts or indicators or figuring out setups and strategies because all of that stuff, you can learn.

What's hard is:

  • Taking a loss and not revenge trading.
  • Seeing green and not getting greedy.
  • Sticking to a plan when every part of your brain is screaming to do the opposite.
  • Journaling your trades when it feels like a spotlight on your worst decisions.
  • Sitting out of the market because there’s no clean setup, even when you really want to take a trade.

Most people don’t make it because they underestimate the psychological war this game becomes over time.

You need discipline, emotional control and a system you can repeat without guessing. You need to learn how to:

  • Close the trade when you're wrong.
  • Don't take a trade when there's nothing to do.
  • Survive long enough to actually learn from your tracked data. (Journal)

Profitable trading is boring. Like really boring. You just keep repeating the same setups, over and over and over and over.. you get the point.

The market doesn’t owe you anything, but it definitely will reward you if you're consistent.

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#2 帖子 lostsoul »

No_Pop9869
I am profitable if I only trade my A setup. My problem is for some unknown reason, I am also trading other crappy setup resulting in me losing more money than winning.

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#3 帖子 lostsoul »

追踪 VIX 有一段时间了,以前只是把它当成股市的晴雨表,没有深入的研究。

viewtopic.php?p=59525&hilit=vix#p59525
Re: 伊朗明天可能会攻击以色列
由 who » 2024-08-05 7:46
“VIX 从 23 跳到 50 了”

当时 kc 回复,问我 “赚了多少”。我还没有概念,不知道怎么利用它。

半年前忽然反应过来,利用 VIX 的涨跌来直接投资
viewtopic.php?t=12831
少根投资的弦
#1#1 帖子 由 who » 2024-12-27 9:20

最近的一次,从 06/03 开始建仓
viewtopic.php?p=130395#p130395

本周开始大幅加仓,到昨天为止3000 股

viewtopic.php?p=132644#p132644
今天全部卖出。
十天时间,盈利超过了投入的 13%.

刚才看到一楼转载的帖子,觉得非常有道理。短期交易,寻找好的时机非常重要。时机不成熟,那就只能耐心等待。

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#4 帖子 lostsoul »

另一个教训:

作为一个不懂任何技术面和基本面,投资全靠拍脑袋 的小股民,唯一能掌握的,就是时间。

投资股票,判断错了,可以通过时间来换空间。
投资期权,判断错了,没有时间也没有空间。

这些惨痛经历让我幡然悔悟,option is not for me.

天可怜见,现在有不少不需要基本面和技术面的投资选项。
比如和 bitcoin 相关的,和 VIX 相关的,这些投资选择大都没有什么基本面,也不依赖技术面。这给我们股盲一个展示自己的舞台 :lol:

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#5 帖子 shepherd17 »

句句真。血和泪的教训。“Sticking to a plan when every part of your brain is screaming to do the opposite.” 这一点尤其重要。

另外一个炒股牛人Ross Cameron 写道:
Even after years of trading, I still find myself occasionally giving in to my instinct to chase a stock for fear of missing the move, to sell a winner too soon, or hold a loser a little too long. Every day when I trade I have to fight against my natural instincts. Unfortunately many of our natural human instincts do not encourage healthy trading patterns.

lostsoul 写了: 13 6月 2025, 11:49

Reddit/u/allen_trades_rddt

Trading isn’t hard because of the charts or indicators or figuring out setups and strategies because all of that stuff, you can learn.

What's hard is:

  • Taking a loss and not revenge trading.
  • Seeing green and not getting greedy.
  • Sticking to a plan when every part of your brain is screaming to do the opposite.
  • Journaling your trades when it feels like a spotlight on your worst decisions.
  • Sitting out of the market because there’s no clean setup, even when you really want to take a trade.

Most people don’t make it because they underestimate the psychological war this game becomes over time.

You need discipline, emotional control and a system you can repeat without guessing. You need to learn how to:

  • Close the trade when you're wrong.
  • Don't take a trade when there's nothing to do.
  • Survive long enough to actually learn from your tracked data. (Journal)

Profitable trading is boring. Like really boring. You just keep repeating the same setups, over and over and over and over.. you get the point.

The market doesn’t owe you anything, but it definitely will reward you if you're consistent.

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#6 帖子 lostsoul »

还是 Tyson 那句话,"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face"

"Sometime they punch you back in the face. You have a plan too. Got to be careful with that." :lol:

shepherd17 写了: 13 6月 2025, 17:06

句句真。血和泪的教训。“Sticking to a plan when every part of your brain is screaming to do the opposite.” 这一点尤其重要。

另外一个炒股牛人Ross Cameron 写道:
Even after years of trading, I still find myself occasionally giving in to my instinct to chase a stock for fear of missing the move, to sell a winner too soon, or hold a loser a little too long. Every day when I trade I have to fight against my natural instincts. Unfortunately many of our natural human instincts do not encourage healthy trading patterns.

lostsoul 写了: 13 6月 2025, 11:49

Reddit/u/allen_trades_rddt

Trading isn’t hard because of the charts or indicators or figuring out setups and strategies because all of that stuff, you can learn.

What's hard is:

  • Taking a loss and not revenge trading.
  • Seeing green and not getting greedy.
  • Sticking to a plan when every part of your brain is screaming to do the opposite.
  • Journaling your trades when it feels like a spotlight on your worst decisions.
  • Sitting out of the market because there’s no clean setup, even when you really want to take a trade.

Most people don’t make it because they underestimate the psychological war this game becomes over time.

You need discipline, emotional control and a system you can repeat without guessing. You need to learn how to:

  • Close the trade when you're wrong.
  • Don't take a trade when there's nothing to do.
  • Survive long enough to actually learn from your tracked data. (Journal)

Profitable trading is boring. Like really boring. You just keep repeating the same setups, over and over and over and over.. you get the point.

The market doesn’t owe you anything, but it definitely will reward you if you're consistent.

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lostsoul 写了: 14 6月 2025, 14:02

还是 Tyson 那句话,"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face"

的确如此,世事变化不是人能控制的,总会有意想不到的事发生;计划赶不上变化。不过有计划比没有强。

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shepherd17 写了: 14 6月 2025, 14:12
lostsoul 写了: 14 6月 2025, 14:02

还是 Tyson 那句话,"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face"

的确如此,世事变化不是人能控制的,总会有意想不到的事发生;计划赶不上变化。不过有计划比没有强。

"Plans are nothing; planning is everything."
--Dwight D. Eisenhower 羊倌

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lostsoul 写了: 15 6月 2025, 22:24
shepherd17 写了: 14 6月 2025, 14:12

的确如此,世事变化不是人能控制的,总会有意想不到的事发生;计划赶不上变化。不过有计划比没有强。

"Plans are nothing; planning is everything."
--Dwight D. Eisenhower 羊倌

flattered :mrgreen:

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